12th house empty-any significance?

topic posted Mon, October 19, 2009 - 7:14 AM by  Bharat
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Hi All,
My 12th House is empty. Is there any significance attached to it or is it a useless thing to happen? Please throw light.My birth details-14th March 1966/New Delhi/10:45pm.

Thanks
Bharat
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  • Re: 12th house empty-any significance?

    Mon, October 19, 2009 - 7:24 AM
    What is the sign on the cusp of your 12th house? What planet is the Ruler of that zodiac sign? Where is that planet and what is it doing?

    ;-)
    • Re: 12th house empty-any significance?

      Mon, October 19, 2009 - 8:02 AM
      Hello Maggie,
      Thanks for responding :-)
      Please see my astro details below-

      14.03.1966 /time-10:45pm/Place-Delhi.
      Horoscope details are-1House-Asc-Libra / 2House-Ketu in Scorpio / 3House-Moon in Sagi / 4House-Venus in Capricorn / 5House-Saturn in Aquarius / 6House-Sun,Mars,Mercury in Pisces / 7House-Aries / 8House- Jupiter and Rahu in Taurus / 9H-Gemini/ 10H-Cancer / 11H-Leo / 12H-Virgo.

      Tula 26° 44' 53 / Surya Meena 00° 17' 26 / Chandra Dhanu 08° 19' 29" / Mangal Meena 10° 37' 54 / Budh Meena 11° 52' 30 / Guru Vrishabh 29° 05' 12" / Shukra Makara 16° 25' 17" / Sani Kumbh 26° 57' 39" / Rahu Vrishabh 04° 21' 21" / Ketu Vrischik 04° 21' 21"

      Please guide.

      Regards
      Bharat
    • Re: 12th house empty-any significance?

      Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:33 AM
      Hi,
      Sorry there might be a couple of terms in Hindi language....so giving below again with English terms..

      14.03.1966 /time-10:45pm/Place-Delhi, India
      Horoscope details are-1House-Asc-Libra / 2House-Dragon's tail in Scorpio / 3House-Moon in Sagi / 4House-Venus in Capricorn / 5House-Saturn in Aquarius / 6House-Sun,Mars,Mercury in Pisces / 7House-Aries / 8House- Jupiter and Dragon's head in Taurus / 9H-Gemini/ 10H-Cancer / 11H-Leo / 12H-Virgo.

      Libra 26° 44' 53 / Sun in Pisces 00° 17' 26 / Moon in Sagitarious08° 19' 29" /Mars in Pisces10° 37' 54 /Mercury in Pisces11° 52' 30 / Jupiter in Taurus 29° 05' 12" /Venus in Capricorn16° 25' 17" / Saturn in Aquarius26° 57' 39" / Dragon's head in Taurus04° 21' 21" / Dragon's tail in Scorpio 04° 21' 21"

      Would really appreciate if you could throw some light w.r.t. my 12th house.

      Thanks
      Bharat

      • Re: 12th house empty-any significance?

        Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:12 PM

        Bharat is referring to his Vedic Astrology chart

        the whole sign house system is used in Vedic Astrology except for Krishnamurti system that uses the Placidus house system


        12th has other meanings for Vedic Astrology

        In Vedic Astrology, the 12th house is associated with moksha,liberation,enlightenment,detachment as well as loss and suffering. All of them seem to be connected

        In Vedic Astrology, Ketu (South Lunar Node) is said to be significator for moksha,liberation,enlightenment

        in Vedic Astrology, I have Ketu in 12th which I read is a potential placement for moksha(release from the cycle of death and rebirth),liberation,enlightenment but also much loss and suffering too.

        from the materialistic standpoint,it can really suck


        also in Vedic Astrology, 12th house is associated with long-distance travel or living abroad,sexual pleasure,confinement,hospitalization,expenses


        of course,Vedic Astrologers look at not only the planets in 12th house but the ruler of the 12th house and its aspects

        for example, I have Cancer 12th house. Therefore Moon is my 12th house ruler. It's conjunct my Mars (my yoga karaka because it rules my Aries 9th house which is a trikona and my Scorpio 4th house which is a kendra) in Aquarius in 7th house, aspected by 6th/7th house ruler Saturn in Taurus in 10th which also aspects Ketu in Cancer in 12th.



        I use whole sign house system in Western Astrology now.
        My 12th house is Leo. Therefore, my South Lunar Node in Leo and my dwarf planets,Ceres-Makemake conjunction in Leo are in 12th house.
        • Re: 12th house empty-any significance?

          Fri, October 23, 2009 - 1:29 AM
          Thanks Raymond , for throwing light on various aspects pertaining to 12th house.
          In my case then the ruler of 12th house is Mercury(that of Virgo) , if I am not wrong, and position of mercury is in the 6th house.Gemini is occupying 9th house, which is also ruled by Mercury..
          Knowing all this , I am still cluseless w.r.t. what would be the net effect of all this as my knowledge of astrology etc is very limited

          Could you please elaborate further?! Would be a great help!

          Many thanks
          Bharat
    • Re: 12th house empty-any significance?

      Sun, October 25, 2009 - 11:01 AM
      Hell Maggie,
      Ruler of 12th house is Mercury(that of Virgo) , if I am not wrong, and position of mercury is in the 6th house.Gemini is occupying 9th house, which is also ruled by Mercury..
      Knowing all this , I am still cluseless w.r.t. what would be the net effect of all this as my knowledge of astrology etc is very limited

      Could you please elaborate further?! Would be a great help!

      Many thanks
      Bharat
      • Re: 12th house empty-any significance?

        Mon, October 26, 2009 - 8:10 AM
        Hi, Bharat,

        It is difficult for me to interpret unless I see the whole chart. (the drawing)

        If you want to get a Western Style chart, you can go for free to www.astro.com

        I am not knowledgeable enough about Jyotish astrology to give you my interpretation.
        • Re: 12th house empty-any significance?

          Mon, October 26, 2009 - 9:47 AM
          Hi Maggie,
          I have created my profile-indianalphabet@rediffmail.com in astro.com.
          Now I want to send my chart/drawing to you, but am not able to paste or copy in this reply column!!

          Don't know what to do.

          Would it be possible for you to view in astro.com?

          Thanks
          Bharat
          • Re: 12th house empty-any significance?

            Tue, October 27, 2009 - 5:56 AM
            Bharat,

            You can save it to your computer (as a GIF or JPG file), then post it to your Photo section on Tribe.
            • Re: 12th house empty-any significance?

              Tue, October 27, 2009 - 11:23 AM
              Hmmm...intelligent!
              Yes I did it and it's ready for viewing!
              :-)

              Thanks
              Bharat
              • Re: 12th house empty-any significance?

                Tue, October 27, 2009 - 12:00 PM
                Cool....And it's a very interesting chart!

                Your 12th House has its cusp in Libra, which is ruled by Venus. Venus is in the 3rd house, in Aquarius.

                I find that your chart is encouraging you to use your Artistic, Compassionate, and Healing sensitivities. You are here to bring the balm of love and healing to the Earth.

                You might be especially attracted to the Feminine Divine....Goddess. Serving the Goddess can be very illuminating for you. Serving Her through your Art, Music, Poetry, etc., may be your sweetest path.

                Venus Bi-Quintile Uranus:

                Humor, music, entertainment, games or sports, and creativity of all kinds are very important for you. You can manage reasonably well in a stable, predictable routine, but you really come alive and are in your element when you can periodically play, laugh, or be a bit zany. Children can bring out the best in you by evoking your playful, creative side. Exploring many kinds of music, dance, or theater may be an interest of yours.

                Venus Bi-Quintile Pluto

                You appreciate art that is done with passion and feeling. You probably have friends and colleagues who have different socio-economic backgrounds because superficial differences are not important to you.

                ---------------------
                More and more, you may find yourself getting into the Artistic side of things. You can "bridge the gap" between different socio-economic levels by ART and related activities. You can encourage others in the Arts.

                For you, the ARTS may be related to technical abilities, like computer graphics and such. You like to work with cutting edge stuff! Yet, you can also work with classical Arts. You can bring the ancient roots into the New Age, with expanded meaning for all.

                Your NEPTUNE is Rising, so close to the 12th House...this also affects your 12th House. Neptune is also the ruler of your Sun-Sign (Pisces) and it is very comfortable with 12th House matters. However, it makes you seem a little vague and mystical to others when it is rising. It is often the Rising Sign of a Dancer or Performer of some kind. It is good for communicating non-verbally.

                Make sure you have a trusted Accountant or somebody you know check your financial records, etc., as Neptune Rising often doesn't have a "mind for money." It would be good to have a financial advisor, or at least someone who can help you make a budget and stick to it!

                Learn to use your Intuition....it can help you greatly in your day-to-day life!

                Your Sun's position (on cusp of 5th House, conjunct several planets) shows that you MUST use your CREATIVITY to succeed in life. Being CREATIVE is of utmost importance to you.

                Good luck!!! :-)


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